Showing posts with label Jeep. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jeep. Show all posts

Saturday, January 15, 2022

Utility vehicles and tires.

This is a progression in my vehicles and the tires they had. This is also a history in my lessons with the fact that AWD/4WD is not the only major component of successful and confident driving in snow or off roading. Honestly, tires affect all cars and how they perform. A sedan will perform best with a certain type of tire. Same with sports cars, trucks, or any type of vehicle. This is about utility vehicles and their tires. First, let my layout a list of the vehicles that I have owned and the tires and drive each one had:


width/%  Rim  vehicle                   drive
245  /70 R16  Jeep Grand Cherokee       4WD
235  /70 R15  Nissan Xterra             4WD
245  /65 R17  Jeep Commander            4WD
195  /65 R15  Subaru Impreza hatchback  Symmetrical AWD
225  /55 R17  Subaru Crosstrek          Symmetrical AWD 
245  /50 R20  Subaru Ascent Limited     Symmetrical AWD
245  /60 R18  Santa Cruz                HTRAC AWD
All of these vehicles listed above were either AWD or 4WD. But they have completely different handling in snow. AWD or 4WD is only part of the equation. Tires make a big difference in snow. Especially width. Width will determine how much grip will be available. Width will determine how easily snow is pushed away. For example, the Impreza was horrible in slush. Driving through thick wet snow pushed the car around horribly. It also did horrible in fresh snow for traction. Although the Impreza and the Crosstrek had the same AWD system and had all season tires. To say that the 225 tires did considerably better than the 195 tires is an understatement! 245 tires do even better. I pushed the Jeep Commander all the time in heavy snow The 195 tires just will not cut it.

But there is more to this than wheel width and AWD/4WD. Tire tread is important too. For example I took my Jeep Grand Cherokee off the pavement quite a few times and it did excellent. I tried to take the Nissan Xterra on some of the same area and it failed where the Jeep Grand Cherokee succeeded. Granted the Nissan had 235 tires and the Jeep 245, but the Jeep also had aggressive outer tread where the Nissan did not.

Will 265 perform better than 245s? For Snow, mud, and sand - very likely yes. Especially if they have good tread. But it should also be noted the more aggressive the tread is and the wider the tire, the worse the gas mileage will be. Other considerations are comfort, noise, and tire roll. The more aggressive the outer tread is, the noisier the tire will be. The more sidewall a tire has, the more roll the tire will have.

Tuesday, June 18, 2019

2019 Car Shows/Meets

2019 Car Shows/Meets

Event: Mustang Club of America "Stampede to the Heartland"
When: Jul 18 2019 / 8 AM
When: Jul 21 2019 / 5 PM
Type: Public Event
Hosted by: Heartland Motorsports Park and Mustang Club of America
Where: Heartland Motorsports Park
   7530 SW Topeka Blvd, Topeka, Kansas 66619


Event: Antique Auto Exhibit
When: Aug 4 2019 / 9 am- 3pm
Type: Public Event
Where: David Davis Mansion

About: Beautiful, historic cars in a beautiful, historic setting – that’s the promise of 22nd Annual Antique Car Exhibition. More than 75 cars from the 1900s through the 1980s will be displayed on the mansion grounds. This year, we will also be featuring the 33rd Regimental Band in a special Civil War era concert on the lawn. There will also be picnic foods and beverages for sale and free, self-guided tours of the mansion will be offered!


Event: Cruise-In
When: August 11 / 4 pm- 9 pm
Where: Uptown Normal

About: A full-scale cruise-in sponsored by the Car Community Automobile Club in conjunction with the Twin City Cruisers and the McLean County Antique Automobile Club. Come enjoy hundreds of classic and contemporary show cars while you stroll the streets of Uptown!



Event: 41st Annual All Ford Show and Swap Meet
When: Aug 25 2019 / Sun 8 AM
Type: Public Event
Hosted by Central Illinois Mustangers
Where: Landmark Ford Springfield, IL


Event: Cruise-In at the Mansion
When: September 8 / 10 am- 2 pm
Type: Public Event
Where: David Davis Mansion Bloomington IL

About: All types of cars will be on display at the David Davis Mansion, including antiques, classics, trucks and motorcycles. Dash plaques will be given to the first 100 vehicles. Attendees can also enjoy tours of the mansion, concessions and music.


Event: Cruise 11 to Remember 9-11
When: Sep 11 2019
Type: Public Event
Where: Downtown Decatur IL

About: Car/bike show-$11 registration fee, 11 mile cruise, food vendors, FREE entertainment ...Memorial Service. This fund raiser was created to provide our area a way to honor those that serve, have served our Country and provide family entertainment. This year is our 11th annual show to honor the anniversary of 9-11 with family fun in downtown Decatur.



Event:American Legion Car Show - 3rd Annual Car meet
When: Oct 19 2019 / Sat 9 AM - 2 PM
Type: Public Event
Hosted by: American Legion
Where: Burna Ky

About: Car show - $10 registration fee. In the past 2 years approximately 100-110 cars in show - all years, makes, and models. Registration fee goes toward funding American Legion.
https://www.facebook.com/events/2098096367154288/
***See photos of 2018 show

Jul 13
Central Illinois Mustangers Ford Cruise-in
Sat 1 PM · Bob Ridings in Taylorville · Taylorville, Illinois
You like Central Illinois Mustangers

Aug 25
41st Annual All Ford Show and Swap Meet
Sun 8 AM · Landmark Ford · Springfield, Illinois
You like Central Illinois Mustangers

Monday, November 5, 2018

Subaru owner - topic snow...

When driving in snow, what matters?

Experience has taught me there are 5 primary factors for a vehicle that matter. I had assumed 4WD or AWD is what mostly mattered. I was very wrong. Hopeful, I can explain clearly in this post. So, I'll start at the beginning, where I learned this valuable knowledge with my first disappointment with my first Subaru car.

In February 2013, I sold my last Jeep, a trail Jeep Commander. I loved the vehicle. Great storage, power, and mud and snow handling. Better than my Jeep Grand Cherokee. What I didn't like was that I lived 12 miles out of town and gas was at a all time high. Additionally, the windshield was constantly being repaired or replaced because it was so vertical (I drove behind a lot of big trucks). Like always, I did a ton of research and in the end purchased my first new Subaru. I wanted something more sporty, better gas mileage, and would handle snow like my Jeeps had always done. I was told all Subaru's were awesome in the snow. So a salesman talked me into what he said would be the perfect car for me; a 2013 Subaru Impreza Premium hatchback. It was a nice looking car and over all was not a horrible car, but as I soon would learn, far from the perfect car in snow. Most certainly not as well as my previous Jeeps had done in snow. The first big 6 inch snow that we had in central Illinois with the car and I was stuck. I was so disappointing and mad. How could this be? I was told this be a great AWD car in snow and it was not. Additionally, just driving around, snow slush would just throw the car around (side to side).

I start looking around and asking people about their cars. What I learned was there is more to a good snow car than 4WD, FWD or AWD. First thing I learned was that the wider the tires, the better. Larger, wider tires moves the snow out of the way and has more surface for traction. The Subaru Impreza had fairly narrow tires. P205/55R16 on the Premium I purchased. Another issue was the car sat so low, that I had actually become high centered in the snow. So, yeah, height/clearance was an issue too. Other Subaru owners were raving about how well their cars did. Then I realized, their Subaru's sat higher and hand much better tires/wheels.

Just like when my Nissan Xterra could not live up to my Jeep's capabilities, and I could not climb the same off road hills, I didn't forgive this vehicle either. I wanted something better. I gave the car to my son who was wanting an AWD car that was better than the car he was driving. That said, my son has loved the car and still drives it.

In February 2015 I purchased the XV Crosstrek Premium after much research. The car looked a lot like my Impreza (as it is based on the same platform). Yes, I had seriously considered going back to Jeep, but the numbers and research pointed back as Subaru. The Crosstrek had bigger, wider wheels (P225/55R17), was lifted (8.7 inches clearance), trail ready, cost less, and a was really cool looking car. And unlike my Impreza, it pleased during the first big snow I drove with it. In fact, time and time again in the ice and snow, it performed well. I call the car my little beast. The vehicle actually handled as well as any Jeep I had owned. I also love the small factor of the car for parking and driving.

Was that all the factors in play? Nope. The Impreza is light compared to the Crosstrek. The Impreza weighed in at about 2,911 lbs. My Crosstrek weighs somewhere between 3,109 to 3,208 lbs. That little extra weight also helps with snow.

To summarize and back to the point.
1) Tire width size matters. Why? Surface traction and the ability to push away the snow. Don't believe this makes that much a difference? Compare driving with different sized tires.
2) Car weight matters. Heavier the vehicle, better the snow is displaced. But weight is a double edge sword. The heavier the vehicle, the harder to stop on snow and ice.
3) Multiple wheels that have traction matter. In other words FWD (four wheel drive) or AWD (All wheel drive). Many cars say AWD, but it is very misleading. Unless the car has at least a 40/60 distribution at default, your car will probably not be giving you the traction that is useful when you needed. Most manufacturers are getting better at making AWD but Toyota, for example, has made some horrible AWD in the past.
4) Lastly, clearance matters. This factor mostly matters when driving in very deep, wet snow. As I learned and other people I know, if you become high centered, good traction becomes impossible.
5) Tire tred matters. This is probably obvious to most people. Winter tires will perform better than All-season tires in snow. All-season tires will perform better than summer tires. If you can afford to have an extra set of winter tires just for winter (and can store them), do so. If you can't, you should have all weather tires if drive in snow.

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